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10-04-2004, 07:10 PM
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Hi Nicky!
Let me ask, you a simple question. Somehow, doesn’t "shifting calories" and “adjusting your metabolism,” sound hokey? Like any other program out there, from the Beverly Hills Diet, to Atkins, to every one else, they’re designed for one thing – to make the promoters money.
The health and fitness industry is a $52 billion (that’s right –billion) industry and growing. I’ve seen the site you mention, and it is very colorful and persuasive. But in the end, they just want a piece of the action.
Consider that if dieting did work, then there would be one diet, everyone would use that diet, end of obesity problem in our society. Well, we know that isn’t so – the problem we have with weight continues to grow.
We don’t wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves overweight. The excess pounds crept up over the months and years from neglect and poor food choices. We can’t lose the weight permanently in a couple of weeks. It’s going to require making life long changes.
Any diet will help you lose weight in the short term, whether it’s the Cabbage Soup diet or Slim Fast, or the one you’re asking about. But here’s the problem.
Remember that the word “diet” is a noun. It simply means the food and liquid we take in. Most people today use it as a verb – “I’m going to the store.” “I’m going to the movies.” “I’m going on a diet.”
“Going on a diet” implies that you go on a diet for a period of time, and then go off it. We all know what happens then. The familiar yo-yo syndrome.
I don’t mean to sound harsh, Nicky, but doesn’t what I’ve said make sense?
So what does work? Well, I can tell you what does work by asking you to answer these two simple questions.
1. How many raw, whole foods do you eat on average every day?
For most people it’s 0-3.
2. How many glasses of something else do you get for every glass of water?
For most people, it’s 6-8
By simply changing these ratios, you will make immediate gains to your goal of better health and weight loss.
What do I mean by ratios? In the case of water, for most people the water ratio is 8 to 1 — 8 glasses of something else for every glass of water. Start by trying to make the ratio 4 to 1, then 1 to 1, and eventually even 3 to 1 in favor or water.
With raw, whole foods, simply try to increase your daily variety and consumption and start to slowly cut out the foods causing the problem – you know, the stuff made from white flour and sugars and the snack foods. By changing these ratios, and adding exercise to the equation, the benefits will come.
True, this approach may not be as glamorous as the diets of the stars you read in the tabloids at the checkout counter of the local supermarket, but it does work and is the only approach for lasting results.
chefbrian
www.dietdummy.com
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10-06-2004, 08:21 AM
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Buyer beware would be my best word of advice. Chef Brian has not fit the image of a spammer, what he has posted so far has been sound advice. I may make a decision in the next coming months to limit advertising to banner advertising only so that we can keep the spam down in the forums.
In the meantime, if people have good, sound advice and DO NOT preface it with 'go to my website to learn more', they are welcome here.
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10-06-2004, 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by jeeplaw@Oct 6 2004, 09:21 AM
Buyer beware would be my best word of advice. Chef Brian has not fit the image of a spammer, what he has posted so far has been sound advice. I may make a decision in the next coming months to limit advertising to banner advertising only so that we can keep the spam down in the forums.
In the meantime, if people have good, sound advice and DO NOT preface it with 'go to my website to learn more', they are welcome here.
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All right! Looks as if we have the makings of a lively debate here. Seems that Nicky was upset that I left my web address in a previous post. Well, if you go to any forum on any subject on the net, you'll find people append their sig file to the end of their message. It's standard and accepted practice. Mine doesn't imply or mention any product. I never suggested Nicky or anyone else go to my website.
A web address is just a safer way for a person to contact someone if they wish to, rather than leaving an e-mail address in a post. At least on your website, you can encrypt your e-mail address in Java Script to be safe from harvesting bots.
A question was asked and I gave my view. "Shifting calories" and "adjusting your metabilism' sounded hokey to me- and it still does.
Yeah, I am a chef. And I support the "sound nutrition and healthy eating approach". I suggested to Nicky she try to increase her daily variety and consumption of healthy foods, start to slowly cut out the junk foods, drink plenty of water, throw exercise into the equation, and the benefits will come. How's that selling anything?
Nicky also seems to have a problem with another post I put up in regard to an inquiry about a Healthy Burrito Recipe. I clearly stated a disclaimer in that post that: "I'm telling you before you click over that this recipe does use an ingredient from a company that you may not have heard of."
That's a far cry from saying "here's a site where you can buy all sorts of weight management products at really reasonable prices" and then including a link to a web address to go to.
As jeeplaw correctly points out, as long as " people have good, sound advice and DO NOT preface it with 'go to my website to learn more', they are welcome here". I certainly didn't do that in any of my posts. If I offended anyone, I apologize, but I still maintain I followed the rules of fair play.
Which begs the question then, jeeplaw. As administrator of this board, do you have an issue with people appending their personal web address to their messages as long as it doesn't imply the name of a company or business? |
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10-07-2004, 01:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by chefbrian@Oct 6 2004, 07:02 PM
All right! Looks as if we have the makings of a lively debate here. Seems that Nicky was upset that I left my web address in a previous post. Well, if you go to any forum on any subject on the net, you'll find people append their sig file to the end of their message. It's standard and accepted practice. Mine doesn't imply or mention any product. I never suggested Nicky or anyone else go to my website.
A web address is just a safer way for a person to contact someone if they wish to, rather than leaving an e-mail address in a post. At least on your website, you can encrypt your e-mail address in Java Script to be safe from harvesting bots.
A question was asked and I gave my view. "Shifting calories" and "adjusting your metabilism' sounded hokey to me- and it still does.
Yeah, I am a chef. And I support the "sound nutrition and healthy eating approach". I suggested to Nicky she try to increase her daily variety and consumption of healthy foods, start to slowly cut out the junk foods, drink plenty of water, throw exercise into the equation, and the benefits will come. How's that selling anything?
Nicky also seems to have a problem with another post I put up in regard to an inquiry about a Healthy Burrito Recipe. I clearly stated a disclaimer in that post that: "I'm telling you before you click over that this recipe does use an ingredient from a company that you may not have heard of."
That's a far cry from saying "here's a site where you can buy all sorts of weight management products at really reasonable prices" and then including a link to a web address to go to.
As jeeplaw correctly points out, as long as " people have good, sound advice and DO NOT preface it with 'go to my website to learn more', they are welcome here". I certainly didn't do that in any of my posts. If I offended anyone, I apologize, but I still maintain I followed the rules of fair play.
Which begs the question then, jeeplaw. As administrator of this board, do you have an issue with people appending their personal web address to their messages as long as it doesn't imply the name of a company or business?
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Well, here's my thinking...since i actively moderate the postings here, I get the chance to make judgement calls. I do not have an issue with people who reference their personal websites in their postings. However, and before the great crash that left this message board empty, I had to be careful and moderate the constant spam that people posted about how to lose weight and go to my site to find out more, pay me $5 and you'll see.
My thinking about creating this site was to encourage others to openly discuss weight loss in general, any plan, any exercise..just provide an open forum to do so. That being said, I think people like you who do provide a good perspective are more than welcome here. Any post that contributes to the wellbeing of this site to help others lead a healthy lifestyle is more than welcome.
Like I said, since I actively moderate, I'm not really worried to much about this. I do have a message area set up for 'great deals' and stuff so if you DO want to promote your site (where you may be selling stuff..i don't know since i haven't visited), you can do it for free there. |
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10-16-2004, 04:49 AM
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I think it is great that you allow users to subtly plug their wares. Many sites are very stuffy about this and at the end of the day, everyone is just seeking a sloution to their problem. The only way we can work out what our solution is, is to view various different answers and make an adult decision which suits us best. So if we are not made aware what is on offer, how are we able to choose our solution?
I personally believe that every "diet" works and.... every diet doesn't. What do I mean by that? I mean every person is different and will react to a different programme. Although Chefbrian talks alot of sense and is promoting his own business, this programme may work for some but not others. No on has the right to be narrow minded on what works and what does not. I have personally tried many methods to lose weight and have at last found my solution - I also know my solution is not for everybody.
If you are joining any "diet" or programme, please always check that there is a money back guarantee in case it turns out that it is not your solution after all! please also remember that weight loss takes effort, perserverance and motivation and that if a programme promise guaranteed results with no effort whatsoever, then they are telling you little porkies to pull you in! You will always have to work at it - you may just find certain ways easier than others!
Hopethat helps
take care
Chrissie
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10-18-2004, 12:19 AM
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Niggles--
I also looked at this website and it sounded like an interesting concept. People tell you all the time that if you cut out ~3,500 you will lose a pound. And although the logic behind that is all well and good and works for most people...it is definitely NOT the case with all. I am not someone with a lot of weight to lose, but I run 5 miles a day and do weight watchers RELIGIOUSLY--which is essentially just counting calories...so nothing new there (trust me..I do NOT cheat) and I have been doing this for about a month and a half or so and NOTHING...(WW has worked for a bit in the past...but even though I'm doing the same things..weight loss no more..I lose some weight..took a little break--didn't gain it back or anything and just wanted to continue losing weight---but to no avail.
Obviously really frustrating!
Anyways..this long-winded post must end...my question for you is:
Is that plan really working for you? What types of foods can you eat? Is it "liveable?" (obviously none of us are just looking for a short-term solution here)
I would really love to know what kind of results you are seeing. I am pretty open to this type of stuff..as someone else said..I believe most diets do work..it just depends on what works for YOU...
You can e-mail me at Sunnie26@mailblocks.com if you want to let me know how its going for you...
Thanks!
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10-18-2004, 02:37 AM
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Hi
Weight loss is always slower when you have not much to lose. It can also plateau when you have a lot to lose and this can be very frustrating! The thing to do is just keep going - it is the body's wayof testing you!
have you ever noticed that you can reach a certain weight and it doesn't matter what you do, you seem to stay at that weight? Yhis is because yyour body has adjusted to being this weight. what you have to do is perservere until you have reacheed your desired goal and then teach your body to become used to this new weight via a good maintenance programme. Remember, your body is designed to cope with long term starvation and is going to hold on to those fat stores as long as it can - for emergencies!
As for plateauing idoes not hurt to go on a short term strict regime - (and I mean short term - up to week only) just to get your body moving again. Cut the bad czrbs out and eat as many good carbs and quality protein as you can.
I have written a short article on this - if you are intereseted go to gocarbsgoodcarbs@getresponse.com
Hope that is useful
take care
Chrissie
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