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Old 11-08-2004, 05:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
natalieve11
 
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Hi,
I need some advice. I am 21 years old, 5'6", 160 lbs. I am not fat, but I am a little thick. I am trying desperately to lose this weight, but I just can not seem to get the job done. Is there anyone out there who is willing to offer a few helpful words of advice? Maybe a diet plan designed not for extremely overweight people, just those who need to drop 15-20 lbs. I try to work out, and manage to get to the gym at least a couple times a week. What should I do? It is really affecting my relationship with my boyfriend, and my self esteem.

-Desperate to lose
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Old 11-08-2004, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
Pat
 
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Hi...I was about your weight a month ago and have lost 8 lbs. following the diet on the post below yours. This is the easiest diet that I have ever been on & pretty healthy, too. I have only been losing about 2lbs. a week ( did drop 3 the first week), which is what most Drs seem to recommend. I have about another 15- 20 lbs. to lose, also. Going to the gym should help with toning up...but as a long time (20 yr) gym junkie, I find that normal amts. of exercise alone really don't seem to make up for a bad diet. The best thing about this diet, is that I find that I have so much more energy & am really never very hungry with all the snacks.
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Old 11-16-2004, 08:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey Pat, that's really not true. Most Dr. may recommend that, because most, if not all, diets are not good. They are all HIGH in
Sugar
Fat
Salt
Calories

and LOW in
Protein
Fiber

The problem with Doctors, is they don't have the time to talk good sound basic Nutrition with you. At least that is what my Dr. told me!!

What your Body Needs on a daily basis is
Protein
Carbohydrates
Vitamins
Minerals
Fats and Oils
Herbs
Antioxidants

If you're giving your body all that, you can lose as much weight as possible without any harm to your body. The most important part of that list is Protein. Protein builds muscle mass. The more muscle mass you have, the faster you burn fat. And that is VERY natural. Nothing unhealthy about it. Another natural thing is if you are not giving your body enough protein, it takes it from somewhere else. NOT GOOD. Females on avg. needs 100 grams of protein, where males needs 150 grams.

I lost 20lbs in 30 days and feel better today than I have ever felt. I look better and healthier, and my energy is through the roof. I lost 6lbs in my first week and 11 lbs in 2 weeks. Lost 3 inches in my waist. I fit my JEANS again!!

If you asked your doctor if you could go on a low sugar, low fat, low salt, low calorie diet, that is high in protein and fiber what do you think they would say?

They would probably say, “Sure, if you can find something like that!”

I have, and I love it. Look in to it.

Thanks for listening

Joe Black
Personal Weight-loss Coach
jsentp@wowway.com
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Old 11-16-2004, 10:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
PUTZ
 
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HMMMMMM ......
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Old 11-16-2004, 04:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
Jana
 
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Joe, your argument sounds really good on the surface, but you've got to admit the logic could be a little contradictory. Let's take a close look at the two lists. Sugar (from the bad list) is a type of carbohydrate (good list). Fats are bad, but fats and oils are good. Calories are bad, but the three sources of dietary calories (fats, carbohydrates, and protein) are good.

I think any nutritionist/health professional would agree that a diet high in protein and dietary fiber is healthy. What I take issue with is the "bad" list.
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Old 11-17-2004, 12:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
natalieve11
 
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I appreciate all of the feedback. If someone maybe could suggest what they ate to lose 30 pounds in 20 days I would be all for it, but that sounds too hoaxy. Don't you agree? What I am thinking about doing is cutting out carbohydrates from any night time meal, and trying to stick to good carbs during the day. I also am trying to eat lost of veggies, fruits, and protiens, and stay away from sugar!! If I could only get my butt to the gym!
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
Pat
 
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Joe...he might say that I am at risk for developing gallstones, if I were to lose weight that fast & I am not willing to risk my health. I have been checking out several other weight loss forums & have read of others who lost weight very fast, resulting in gallblader surgery . Even if you do manage to avoid any health problems from losing weight so quickly, you don't learn to eat properly & then yo-yo back to your old weight or more. Then the next time you try to lose weight, it is even harder. Here is a link to more info: http://win.niddk.nih.gov/publications/gallstones.htm

Thanks for listening...Pat
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Those in the "bad list" are NOT BAD. Unless you're what your eating is HIGH in them. I didn't say I was ONLY doing a HIGH Protein and Fiber diet with NO sugar, fats, salt and calories. The amount of the "bad list" are low.

It has worked for me, my wife and 40 million others in 59 countries. All I know is that it works and it is VERY VERY HEALTHY.

I feel better and I look better but not just on the outside..the inside too. My high cholesterol has come down from 400+ to 200+. Very happy about that. Because the pills I was taking was not working.

Well. I could go on and on about this diet. Which is why I came on here. I love to talk about it. I love the results that I have had and seeing others celebrate it to is a blessing.

Take care and have an awesome day.

I hope I cleared up some stuff for Jana, if not, let me know.

Joe
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Old 11-17-2004, 06:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Pat,

The doctors can say whatever they want. All I know is that I lost 20 pounds in my first month and I have kept it off for 6 months now and No side effects.

Joe
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
PUTZ
 
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This the same doctor that told you the most if not all diets are not good?
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