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04-21-2005, 08:10 AM
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Hi! I am new to the site and new to WL4I I just started the diet today and I am feeling very optimistic about it!! I am hoping that I will be able to reach my goal for 150 lbs by the end of the summer...my starting weight is 190 lbs..... Cant wait tohear all the good advise taht you all can give me!!
Happy dieting y'all!! :P
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04-24-2005, 04:03 PM
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Please tell me and STARTINGOUT what WL4I is?
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04-24-2005, 07:51 PM
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Yeah, what is WL4I???
thanx
Rumata
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04-25-2005, 11:49 PM
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ok i will post this here too. lol :P
WL4I is a high protien diet. its called weightloss 4 idiots, it is called this because the site will actually generate a menu and tell you what to eat, first it will ask you a series of questions about your fav food. then the 11 day menu is generated. after the 11 days, you get 3 days break and then back into it. its 27.00 to join for 90 days, and you can generate as many menus you want during this 90 days. after that your on your own, so if you join make sure you generate and print out menus for the after the 90 trial. there are strict rules, but if you follow the diet to the T <no cheating> then you can lose up to 9 lbs in 11 days. Im not on the diet but have been researching about it for a couple weeks now, not sure if i will join, i know that it is like the Atkins diet in ways <high protein> so there can be side effects like the ones from the Atkins diet.... i will keep researching until i know if it is for me or not. it does have a great suggcess rate for weightloss in the short term. i cant tell you about long term the longest i have hear is a lady on it for 3 1/2 months and going strong. currently looking for people who have been on it for longer and their info... hope this helped.
~Autumn
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04-26-2005, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Big_mama@Apr 25 2005, 10:49 PM
ok i will post this here too. lol :P
WL4I is a high protien diet. its called weightloss 4 idiots, it is called this because the site will actually generate a menu and tell you what to eat,
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[size=1]well that's interesting. Wish I could see a sample menu first! |
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04-26-2005, 11:06 PM
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Alright fair request, i asked the same question and a nice lady was kind enough to post this for me to check it out!
now remember the menu fits her tastes, because she got to choose in the 14 question survey before it generated im told. but basically it goes like this.
VERY IMPORTANT TIP:
Our rules state that you should eat until you feel "satisfied" but never "stuff yourself full". This rule will make or break your dieting success so we want to offer you a simple "guideline".
Basically, when you finish eating each meal you should "still have some room leftover" (in your stomach) afterward. You should still have enough room left to eat something else if you wanted to, but of course you won't be eating anything else. *If you have no room leftover to eat something else then that means you've eaten more than necessary. Always eat slightly less if you're not sure when to stop eating at each meal -- but you should always feel "satisfied" after eating of course, you should NEVER starve yourself.
11 Day Diet SHOWN BELOW (FOOD PREP instructions shown at end of diet)
DAY #1
Meal #1: Hamburger
Meal #2: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #3: Fish Filet
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #2
Meal #1: Banana Milk Shake
Meal #2: Roast Beef Sandwich
Meal #3: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #3
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Roast Beef Sandwich
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #4
Meal #1: Fruit Salad
Meal #2: Chicken
Meal #3: Mixed Salad with Dressing
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #5
Meal #1: Mixed Vegetables
Meal #2: Tuna Salad
Meal #3: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #4: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
DAY #6
Meal #1: Cantaloupe and Melons
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Fish Filet
DAY #7
**** Day of Fruit & Vegetables
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**** Eat 1 Mixed Fruit Meal & 2 Mixed Vegetable meals
**** You should eat only 3 meals on this day (See instructions).
DAY #8
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #3: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #9
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs [and] Cantaloupe and Melons
Meal #3: Fish Filet
Meal #4: Lean Ground Turkey
DAY #10
Meal #1: Fruit Salad
Meal #2: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Meal #3: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #11
Meal #1: Hamburger
Meal #2: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Scrambled Eggs
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*FOOD PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS are below.
Please prepare the above meals according to the food prep directions shown below.
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Hamburger
Any type with anything on it. Be smart though since the bigger the hamburger (and the more toppings on it) the more your stomach will fill up fast. Remember, eat to satisfaction but do not stuff yourself full.
Lean Ground Turkey
This particular form of turkey is sold in a "ground beef" type of package -- and you cook it just like you would cook a hamburger patty. You can also tear it into little chunks and cook it with diced vegetables for a delicious meal. For example, you can cook it with diced bell peppers, onions and tomatoes if you like.
You may also use any of the condiments shown in the diet rules.
Fish Filet
ANY type of non-breaded fish filet is allowed and you may eat as many filets as you want.
You may have them baked, grilled, broiled or steamed. Tartar sauce is not allowed. You may use lemon juice, ketchup, salt, pepper or lemon pepper for flavoring (as well as other condiments listed in the diet rules).
Tuna Salad
Low fat tuna only. Allowable mixing ingredients include non fat mayo, any type of mustard, lettuce, pickles, onions, celery, bell peppers and ANY other type of vegetable that you can think of.
Banana Milk Shake
Combine the following ingredients into a blender:
1 Large Banana
6-10 oz. Non Fat Milk
2-3 Teaspoons Vanilla Extract
"Jelly/Jam" as a sweetener
(try to use low cal jelly/jam if possible).
Blend ingredients and enjoy.
Additionally, to add texture to the shake you may optionally add 1-2 PASTEURIZED egg whites (pasteurized eggs are safe from all bacteria and do not have to be cooked).
You may also add 1 tablespoon of peanut butter for an interesting flavor.
You may withhold any of the above ingredients if you wish, you are not required to use all of the ingredients. You may also use more or less of each ingredient, the above is just a "guideline" and may be changed (you'll find the right amounts for your own liking by experimenting).
Roast Beef Sandwich
You may make a Roast Beef Sandwich. You may add any of the condiments shown in the diet rules. You may also eat as much roast beef as you want -- but only 2 pieces of bread may be eaten with this meal. The bread should be either "oat" or "bran" bread (bran muffins are not allowed). Big Deli Sandwiches are not allowed, the bread must be normal-sized sliced bread.
Scrambled Eggs
You may mix in ANY vegetables that you can think of (if you like) and you may also mix in cheese. You may also use tabasco sauce or ketchup if you like.
Chicken
Boneless and skinless.
You may prepare chicken in any way you like (such as baked, grilled, broiled, etc). You may use Barbecue Sauce if you like. You may also use any other condiments or seasonings mentioned in the diet rules.
Flavored Oatmeal
Either pre-flavored or plain oatmeal is allowed (for example, you may purchase "maple and brown sugar" flavored oatmeal if you wish). You may use either non fat milk or water to prepare oatmeal, but if milk is used then please use the minimum amount required. No extra toppings are allowed.
Fruit Salad
Choose between 2-4 of the below fruits and slice into small pieces, place in a small bowl and enjoy (you may also add non fat COOL WHIP if you like).
Allowable fruits:
Kiwi Fruit
Watermelon
Cantaloupe
Pineapples
Apples
Pears
Strawberries
Grapes
Peaches
Bananas
Plums
There is no minimum or maximum amount of each fruit to use (you choose the portions of each fruit).
Mixed Salad with Dressing
Your salad may be made with any of the following ingredients:
Lettuce
Cucumber
Tomatoes
Cabbage
Mushrooms
Onions
Salad dressing should be "low fat" or "low carb" dressing.
Also, make sure to use it VERY sparingly, please use only enough to flavor the salad and never smother your salad.
Mixed Vegetables
Either frozen or fresh vegetables are allowed. You should make sure that at least 3 different vegetables are combined together in the bowl.
Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Any type of pasta is allowed. The only allowable sauce is spaghetti sauce (thin sauce without meat chunks inside of it), but please only use enough sauce to LIGHTLY cover your pasta. You should be able to see your pasta through the sauce -- if you use more than that the diet won't work properly.
Also, please make sure to eat slowly and only eat enough pasta until you are satisfied because it's very easy to eat too much pasta if you eat it too quickly. You should never feel "full" after eating spaghetti, this food needs to be eaten in smaller portions than other foods since it can ruin your diet if you eat too much of it.
Cantaloupe and Melons
This includes Cantaloupe and ANY other type of Melons. There are no limits on how much of this food you may eat (just make sure not to stuff yourself full).
Day of Fruit and Vegetables
For this one day you should eat ONLY 3 MEALS the whole day, not 4 meals.
One meal should be only Mixed Fruit, you may mix ANY fruits together and there is no limit to the number of fruits you may mix together (use at least 3 different fruits minimum).
For the other two meals you should eat Mixed Vegetables, you may mix ANY vegetables together and there is no limit to the number of different vegetables you may mix together (use at least 3 different vegetables minimum). The Fruits and Vegetables can be fresh or frozen (any vegetables or fruits are allowed).
 Hoped that helped
~Autumn
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04-27-2005, 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Big_mama@Apr 26 2005, 10:06 PM
Alright fair request, i asked the same question and a nice lady was kind enough to post this for me to check it out!
Hoped that helped
~Autumn
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[size=7]HOPE IT HELPED!!! OH MY GOD, YOU'RE AN ANGEL, AUTUMN!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO DO THIS.
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04-27-2005, 11:35 PM
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Originally posted by beeg46@Apr 27 2005, 10:14 PM
[size=7]HOPE IT HELPED!!! OH MY GOD, YOU'RE AN ANGEL, AUTUMN!
THANKS SO MUCH FOR TAKING YOUR TIME TO DO THIS.
BEEG
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If you decide to join WL4I may i suggest another site forum that i have found to be a very big help in my deciding to try this diet. I havent started yet, cant afford the start up yet. but im shooting for may 11th to start<after i have my oral surgery next tuesday i will be sore so ill wait a few days>
here is the site
anyone who is joining WL4I or interested in joining or learning more about it i would suggest reading through the posts on this forum.
they have such a great support system set up for each other, it makes me 150% sure i can do this diet because i wont be alone!
here it is http://forum.diet-blog.com/index.php
good luck to everyone!
wolfdenmuskoka@yahoo.ca is my email if you have any questions or just want to chat.
Love & Light
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04-28-2005, 01:35 PM
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You seem to have a pretty good handle on what it takes to lose weight, Big mama, from what you write. People don't realize that it doesn't matter what "diet" you go on, it all comes down to the fact that all "diets" are based on the fundamental Energy Balance Equation. Simply stated, if you take in more energy in a day than you use up, the excess energy is stored in reserves - read fat. If you take in less energy than you use up, then reserves are used and you lose weight.
That's a fundamental law that can't be violated. As I said, all diets are based on that fact. Only they have different ways of stating that fact to sell books and diet plans. Atkins will tell you that carbohydrates cause you to gain weight. They don't. Excess calories do. Cut out carbs and you automatically have a low calorie diet. Other people will make wacko claims that tell you to eat right for your blood type or to eat different types of calories during the day (there aren't different types of calories - a calorie is a meaure of heat), or talk about negative calories and other strange claims to confuse you and make what they're selling sound like a new miracle cure. There aren't any "miracle" cures. Simply consume less energy than you use up. That's the only way to lose weight.
Of course, people like the structured environment of Weight Watchers or in this case, WL4I's, because everything is planned out for them. Of course you will lose weight on these plans. They're low calorie. Just look at the sample meal plans given above.
The problem is they are not sustainable. I just looked at the WL4I diet for Day 4 for instance: Meal #1: Fruit Salad Meal #2: Chicken Meal #3: Mixed Salad with Dressing Meal #4: Tuna Salad . Realistically, how long can you live on such a diet?
If you're happy to lose weight this way and you're getting results, fine. Don't let me dissuade you. But do you really realize what's going on? Not to pick on WL4I's, but it's the one discussed in this thread. People talk about losing 20 lbs on this diet. The question is, 20 lbs of what? It's certainly not fat. As any diet of this type, a lot of the weight is water, a fair amount is lean tissue and some fat.
You say "so what?". Well, here's the problem. Say 5 lbs of that 20 lbs lost was lean tissue. Muscle is metabolically active tissue that burns in the order of 30 - 50 calories a day for each pound you have. It burns calories even at rest. When you lose muscle, your metabolism slows. Now if you lost 5 lbs of muscle that means you would be able to assimilate only some 250 calories a day less than before you went on the diet.
When you finally gave up starving the weight off and even went back to eating "normal" food, and even ate just as much as before the diet, you would store 250 extra calories a day as fat and gain a pound of fat every 2 weeks. (3500 calories divided by 250). That's why calorie cutting diets are ultimately doomed to fail.
It's not just my saying so. The National Weight Control Registry has the results of almost 5000 successful dieters on file. They've lost on average over 60 lbs. and maintained that loss for over 6 years. None of them did it by starving the weight off. Less than one half of one percent did it going the low carb route. The majority lost weight with a high carb diet, moderate protein, moderate fat and plenty of exercise.
As I said, it matters little to me that you want to lose weight this route. I'm simply making you aware of what's going on behind the scenes. Certainly you can lose weight on the WL4I plan - or any other plan for that matter. Losing weight is the easy part. Keeping it off is the hard part. Ask yourself how you plan on doing that once you've lost precious lean tissue and slowed your metabolism in the process?
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05-04-2005, 05:19 AM
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#20 (permalink)
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Chefbrian, are you on a diet? If you are a chef, how would you fix a nice low fat meal with Lean Ground Turkey?
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