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Old 05-04-2005, 04:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Ok, I just check chefbrian's website and now I understand why he slams other people' diet plans.
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:51 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Okay, JudyL, let me answer your first question. If you go to Recipezaar and do a search for Lean Ground Turkey, you'll find something like 1,129 recipes. The link I gave above will take you to the "turkey" page This is probably one of the best sites out there. All recipes come with full nutritionals.

As for your second point, who's slamming anyone's diet? I said "it matters little to me that you want to lose weight this route. I'm simply making you aware of what's going on." If you chose to believe it or not, that's your choice. I'm saying that if you don't maintain your lean muscle mass, weight gain is inevitable, because these sample menus given are not sustainable as a lifestyle. There are no long term studies that will support losing weight this way as a permanent way to lose weight. If you just want to lose weight at any cost, then by all means go ahead. Just be aware that it's diets like this that cause the 95% failure rate of dieters that we read about. By the way, where do I mention my website anyhow? I don't see it in my sig file.
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Old 05-25-2005, 03:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thank you, I want to see how it matches up with LA. We eat 5 times a day and I have loss 58 pounds and have 50+ more to lose.

Cynthia
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Old 06-07-2005, 03:58 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Hi! have just joined after searching for information on this diet. Is anyone else in the UK who's doing the WL4I diet? It took me a little while to 'translate' some of the menu items into UK food! I've also not been able to find bran or oat bread so am eating granary instead - which i know is supposed to be banned on this diet!

I'm now on day 8 and have lost 8 lbs. I've found the past week hard - i've not been feeling too good - have had my sleep pattern go to pot! anyone else had similar problems?

I haven't had the energy to do the hour long walks. I've also felt very hungry on some of the days - especially the fruit and veg day which was awful! This of course is my own fault - i'm obviously not eating enough.

I've added vitamins and minerals every day as well as a bio-yogurt to help with digestion. Am hoping the sleep thing will sort itself out. But would really like to know if anyone else has found this problem?

P.S. am really looking forward to the 3 days off! :P
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Old 07-10-2005, 06:57 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Thank you, I want to see how it matches up with LA. We eat 5 times a day and I have loss 58 pounds and have 50+ more to lose.
Congratulations Cynthia. What is the "LA" (eat 5 times a day)?

Pat
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:54 AM   #26 (permalink)
kay
 
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hi guys im new to this forum and have been reading about this weight loss for idiots and im not to sure about it do you really think that losing 9lbs a week is good? or would it just leave you with left over skin and saggy bits.
thanks!
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Old 07-12-2005, 02:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
Patio34
 
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Hello everyone,

I'm a newbie here too. I took the bait and joined WL4I and as far as I'm concerned at this time, I'd have done better taking the $27 and throwing it in the streets!

However, let me say in its favor that it seems a good start for someone who isn't very knowlegeable about healthful eating.

ChefBrian seems very astute about healthy eating that leads to weight loss.

Here's a smattering of my conclusions about dieting:

1. You can't outwit your hypothalmus for very long. By undereating much, you will be rewarded with some weight loss and an out-of-control appetite.

2. Sugar & refined foods are the absolute enemy, worse than poison, to weighing the correct weight. Vegetables are king. I have pre-diabetes, or hyperinsulinism, a condition that's many many have and any amounts of refined foods (or high glycemic-index foods) lead to pronounced and hard-to-resist cravings---for days and it creates a vicious cycle prompting you to eat more of the same food. Complete elimination of those foods is crucial and absolutely necessary for have normal eating.

3. Exercise will NOT counterbalance overeating.

It's really simple: eat naturally and exercise. The way our ancestors clear back to cave-man days have eaten. Lots of vegetables and protein, some fruit (high in carbohydrates) and some grain (high in carbs also).

Not that anyone asked. . .

My 2 cents (better than the $27 I wasted--but live and learn)

Pat
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Old 07-13-2005, 10:35 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Originally posted by Big_mama@Apr 27 2005, 04:06 AM
Alright fair request, i asked the same question and a nice lady was kind enough to post this for me to check it out!

now remember the menu fits her tastes, because she got to choose in the 14 question survey before it generated im told. but basically it goes like this.

VERY IMPORTANT TIP:
Our rules state that you should eat until you feel "satisfied" but never "stuff yourself full". This rule will make or break your dieting success so we want to offer you a simple "guideline".

Basically, when you finish eating each meal you should "still have some room leftover" (in your stomach) afterward. You should still have enough room left to eat something else if you wanted to, but of course you won't be eating anything else. *If you have no room leftover to eat something else then that means you've eaten more than necessary. Always eat slightly less if you're not sure when to stop eating at each meal -- but you should always feel "satisfied" after eating of course, you should NEVER starve yourself.
11 Day Diet SHOWN BELOW (FOOD PREP instructions shown at end of diet)
DAY #1
Meal #1: Hamburger
Meal #2: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #3: Fish Filet
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #2
Meal #1: Banana Milk Shake
Meal #2: Roast Beef Sandwich
Meal #3: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #3
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Roast Beef Sandwich
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #4
Meal #1: Fruit Salad
Meal #2: Chicken
Meal #3: Mixed Salad with Dressing
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #5
Meal #1: Mixed Vegetables
Meal #2: Tuna Salad
Meal #3: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #4: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
DAY #6
Meal #1: Cantaloupe and Melons
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Fish Filet
DAY #7
**** Day of Fruit & Vegetables
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**** Eat 1 Mixed Fruit Meal & 2 Mixed Vegetable meals
**** You should eat only 3 meals on this day (See instructions).
DAY #8
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #3: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Meal #4: Tuna Salad
DAY #9
Meal #1: Flavored Oatmeal
Meal #2: Scrambled Eggs [and] Cantaloupe and Melons
Meal #3: Fish Filet
Meal #4: Lean Ground Turkey
DAY #10
Meal #1: Fruit Salad
Meal #2: Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Meal #3: Scrambled Eggs
Meal #4: Chicken
DAY #11
Meal #1: Hamburger
Meal #2: Lean Ground Turkey
Meal #3: Tuna Salad
Meal #4: Scrambled Eggs
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*FOOD PREPARATION INSTRUCTIONS are below.
Please prepare the above meals according to the food prep directions shown below.

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Hamburger
Any type with anything on it. Be smart though since the bigger the hamburger (and the more toppings on it) the more your stomach will fill up fast. Remember, eat to satisfaction but do not stuff yourself full.

Lean Ground Turkey
This particular form of turkey is sold in a "ground beef" type of package -- and you cook it just like you would cook a hamburger patty. You can also tear it into little chunks and cook it with diced vegetables for a delicious meal. For example, you can cook it with diced bell peppers, onions and tomatoes if you like.

You may also use any of the condiments shown in the diet rules.

Fish Filet
ANY type of non-breaded fish filet is allowed and you may eat as many filets as you want.

You may have them baked, grilled, broiled or steamed. Tartar sauce is not allowed. You may use lemon juice, ketchup, salt, pepper or lemon pepper for flavoring (as well as other condiments listed in the diet rules).

Tuna Salad
Low fat tuna only. Allowable mixing ingredients include non fat mayo, any type of mustard, lettuce, pickles, onions, celery, bell peppers and ANY other type of vegetable that you can think of.

Banana Milk Shake
Combine the following ingredients into a blender:

1 Large Banana
6-10 oz. Non Fat Milk
2-3 Teaspoons Vanilla Extract
"Jelly/Jam" as a sweetener

(try to use low cal jelly/jam if possible).

Blend ingredients and enjoy.

Additionally, to add texture to the shake you may optionally add 1-2 PASTEURIZED egg whites (pasteurized eggs are safe from all bacteria and do not have to be cooked).

You may also add 1 tablespoon of peanut butter for an interesting flavor.

You may withhold any of the above ingredients if you wish, you are not required to use all of the ingredients. You may also use more or less of each ingredient, the above is just a "guideline" and may be changed (you'll find the right amounts for your own liking by experimenting).

Roast Beef Sandwich
You may make a Roast Beef Sandwich. You may add any of the condiments shown in the diet rules. You may also eat as much roast beef as you want -- but only 2 pieces of bread may be eaten with this meal. The bread should be either "oat" or "bran" bread (bran muffins are not allowed). Big Deli Sandwiches are not allowed, the bread must be normal-sized sliced bread.

Scrambled Eggs
You may mix in ANY vegetables that you can think of (if you like) and you may also mix in cheese. You may also use tabasco sauce or ketchup if you like.

Chicken
Boneless and skinless.

You may prepare chicken in any way you like (such as baked, grilled, broiled, etc). You may use Barbecue Sauce if you like. You may also use any other condiments or seasonings mentioned in the diet rules.

Flavored Oatmeal
Either pre-flavored or plain oatmeal is allowed (for example, you may purchase "maple and brown sugar" flavored oatmeal if you wish). You may use either non fat milk or water to prepare oatmeal, but if milk is used then please use the minimum amount required. No extra toppings are allowed.

Fruit Salad
Choose between 2-4 of the below fruits and slice into small pieces, place in a small bowl and enjoy (you may also add non fat COOL WHIP if you like).

Allowable fruits:

Kiwi Fruit
Watermelon
Cantaloupe
Pineapples
Apples
Pears
Strawberries
Grapes
Peaches
Bananas
Plums

There is no minimum or maximum amount of each fruit to use (you choose the portions of each fruit).

Mixed Salad with Dressing
Your salad may be made with any of the following ingredients:

Lettuce
Cucumber
Tomatoes
Cabbage
Mushrooms
Onions

Salad dressing should be "low fat" or "low carb" dressing.

Also, make sure to use it VERY sparingly, please use only enough to flavor the salad and never smother your salad.

Mixed Vegetables
Either frozen or fresh vegetables are allowed. You should make sure that at least 3 different vegetables are combined together in the bowl.

Pasta with Spaghetti Sauce
Any type of pasta is allowed. The only allowable sauce is spaghetti sauce (thin sauce without meat chunks inside of it), but please only use enough sauce to LIGHTLY cover your pasta. You should be able to see your pasta through the sauce -- if you use more than that the diet won't work properly.

Also, please make sure to eat slowly and only eat enough pasta until you are satisfied because it's very easy to eat too much pasta if you eat it too quickly. You should never feel "full" after eating spaghetti, this food needs to be eaten in smaller portions than other foods since it can ruin your diet if you eat too much of it.

Cantaloupe and Melons
This includes Cantaloupe and ANY other type of Melons. There are no limits on how much of this food you may eat (just make sure not to stuff yourself full).
Day of Fruit and Vegetables
For this one day you should eat ONLY 3 MEALS the whole day, not 4 meals.

One meal should be only Mixed Fruit, you may mix ANY fruits together and there is no limit to the number of fruits you may mix together (use at least 3 different fruits minimum).

For the other two meals you should eat Mixed Vegetables, you may mix ANY vegetables together and there is no limit to the number of different vegetables you may mix together (use at least 3 different vegetables minimum). The Fruits and Vegetables can be fresh or frozen (any vegetables or fruits are allowed).

Hoped that helped
~Autumn
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Thats an Amazing Post I Must Try This Diet It Sounds Amazing

Ok Im Gonna Start Today, And Will Post My Progress

Sam
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I have never heard about this diet until today, but i noticed it was posed a while back (April I think) but I was wondering how everyone was doing on it?
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Old 07-14-2005, 08:45 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Hi, im new to this forum because our weightloss4idiots forum was hacked into and shut down Anyway, im on my final cheat dy after my first cycle of the diet. . .i didn't weigh after the first cycle because im absolutely petrified of the scale, but i feel much better. I start the second cycle tommorrow-- other WL4I dieters out there??

natalie
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