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09-28-2004, 05:13 AM
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Posted the link on top. Don't know if I am allowed to post links in here but worth telling everyone about it.
http://www.thatswholesale.com for the ephedra supplements.
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10-16-2004, 04:05 AM
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Hi
Just in case anyone from UK is following this forum Ephreda is a banned substance in Uk - keep clear! You are better off losing weight naturally and understanding about a balanced diet.
I have written a short article on carbohydrates as there is a lot of confusing info out there - if you are interested in reading it go to gocarbsgoodcarbs@getresponse.com
Hope that helps!
take care
Chrissie
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10-19-2004, 12:51 AM
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Hi I agree i think that it is best if you loose weight naturally like i did i used diet pills but they had no ephedra and i saw great results i used relacore and hey ive lost alot of weight and i am really happy. you should check it out http.www.relacore.com hey youll see that you dont have to use ephedra to loose weight.
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11-10-2004, 12:55 AM
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It is not illegal to purchase. There are plenty of non ephedra supplements out there and they all recommend diet and exercise. If you need to diet and exercise with these so hyped supplements, then why do you need to waste your money buying it? If you are going to purchase Relacore or any other non ephedra pill, you might as well save yourself a lot of money by buying multivitamins and follow a strict diet and exercise. A good tell tale sign that a supplement will not work is if they suggest to combine "diet and exercise" for effectiveness. People seem to stick to their healthy regimen when more money is spent on a supplement. Because they want their money to be well spent and to rid the guilt of being suckered into another herbal mixture in a pill that is only a promise. It is actually YOU that worked harder to lose the weight and NOT the supplement.
Buyer beware. Stick with what works. ECA stack (Ephedrine, Caffeine, Aspirin)has been scientifically proven to work with no diet and no exercise. It is all natural and with no side effects. 4000 years of Chinese herbal medicine can't be wrong.
Here is the dirt on psychology and supplements. All FDA unregulated natural herbal pills are just a mixture of inexpensive herbs. Many pharmaceutical companies such as Certified Natural and others can clone even Relacore and sell it back to you for $5 a bottle tops. According to Certified Natural, people believe that they get what they pay for. For supplements, this does not hold so true. Cigarettes are also herbs which are very cheap. If the cigarette is more expensive, does that mean it is better? In the case of ephedra, it works great but it is too cheap. Everyone knows that including the pharmaceutical companies. But the problem is that the FDA must ban it and turn it into a drug in order for big pharma corp. to monopolize it and inflate the price. I can go on and on but you must do your own research to make any sense of what I am saying. Here is your starting point and a little homework for you to do. Click on this link (you might have to highlight, copy and paste the following link in your browser if it does not work)
http://certifiednatural.org/wholesale/productline.html
Careful now, this is the private wholesale link for distributors only. According to them but anybody can just anonymously buy from them in this site. See the suggested retail price and the actual price for you as a "distributor?"
Now, let's take Relacore. Basic Research is the company that is the only distributor for it. This way, they cut out the middle man and make themselves one. Call them up and they will tell you: "Sir, to be a distributor you must purchase 50 minimum and maintain that quantity every month. Your price, $22.50 each at that quantity." They will also tell you to sell it at $49.95. For something that is worth $5 and sells on Ebay for $21? Yeah right! People are liquidating Relacore on Ebay and taking losses because it does not work. Now they have to come up with EstrinD. For menopausal women only? Like that stuff won't work on a man in his 30's or a girl in her teens. How is that possible and says who? The same company that sells it? They also have something for overweight kids. And one were to think that kids, menopausal women, and overweight people were all made differently and need to take their supplement according to their stage in life. Thank God vitamin makers don't have varieties like that. If they did and ran commercials, I am very sure a good number of people will fall for it too. Flintstone vitamins is not just for kids right? I can take it in my 30's as well and I don't need a pretty girl on TV to tell me that.
Bottom line is: exercise, eat right and take your vitamins. If you can't stick to it then it is Ephedra, Caffeine and Aspirin like it or not. And you get to eat what you want. Simple. One last homework assignment. Call up Certified Natural and ask them how much it will cost to clone Relacore :-)
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11-10-2004, 06:58 AM
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Very very good post. Thanks Netpounder
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11-11-2004, 11:36 PM
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Funny how cause and effect caught up with me. Just got a call from Bxbbx at Basic Research asking me how I am doing with my last Relacore distributor order only 2 days after my last post. Hopefully he pitched the same line to every distributor and will not figure that it is me posting hehe! Told him like for the 15th time within a period of 3 months that I am not completely sold out of the original 48 bottles I bought. 48 bottles are not a lot to sell but I guess people are realizing that it does not work. Goes on to tell me there is a new scam, er product out from them called Basic Naturals if memory serves me right. Here is the catch. Only "us" guys, the "distributors" will have access to it and will not be sold to GNC or other chains. Then, with a nervous chuckle he says "people are ordering it like crazy" and that it will be available at the end of the month. On top of that, he goes on to say that it is "all natural" unlike their previous weight loss formulas. That comment didn't make much sense as it will have to be all natural in order to be sold without FDA approval. If he is telling the truth then what is synthetic in Relacore and EstrinD that we don't know about and has been hidden from the FDA? He tells me that at a purchase of 48 bottles, I am looking at paying about $26/bottle with a discount bringing it down to about $22 a bottle after I made a comment about the inflated price (Staker 2 EF is at $12 per 100 pill bottle and Trimspa at $17 for 36 pills and has a 10:1 ratio sale at the register -this means that for every 1 weight loss supplement of ANY kind, 10 Trimspa sell). Only a gun to my head will make me blindly perorder Basic Naturals with those statistics and such inflated prices. I should have laughed in his face but was overcome with intrigue. I guess I couldn't laugh while intrigued but surely reflect upon it now and can't seem to get that smile off of my mind :-)
Now, why would distributors preorder it like crazy with such bad selling experiences with EstrinD and Relacore? Like we need a third beating in the head for a reality check. Let me explain how greedy Basic Research is. The only product that seems to work is Strivectin-SD. They figured that people were paying up to $135 per bottle of the miracle wrinkle remover. So they went ahead and cut the supply off for all their distributors and now sell exclusively to large retail chains and department stores at about $90 a bottle wholesale. But don't despair, there is a cheaper alternative with 25% more of the active ingredient. It is Strixaderm-MD.
So here is a heads up to all you people in weight loss land! Beware of the new scam in a bottle at the end of this month. Don't buy it as a Christmas gift either or you will offend the informed recipient.
Homework: When you see Basic Naturals advertised, listen carefully to the commercial. When you hear "taken with diet and exercise" will make it more effective, a brownie point will be given to the first reply post here.
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